Thanks Andy ideas are flowing amazing stuff i can base my Patchworking around the Pearly family as you mentioned not to think too much which quite challenged me then realisation about keeping things simple.
When this was a topic for me, I myself emerged out of a situation where I had taken on the victim role. Being able to see this mechanism and then jotting it down combined with the ToL was (one of the) a big eye opener. Of course around that time a client came to me for bodywork sessions who continously and persistently ‘forced’ me to take a position in this triangle. Very informative.
Now re-reading; Equals having a problem positioning yourself as the victim? Is asking ‘Whats it like’ deliberately taking on one of the two other positions in this triangle, and, is that what we want (operating within in this triangle)?
Having done the IEMT and learning about the Patterns of Chronicity, this drama triangle is again very intriguing to me.
Two thoughts:
– Adam and eve weren’t the first humans. They are representative of early humans and how they grew consciousness (knowledge) and became aware of their vulnerability. Within this frame it’s not so weird that Cain married someone from another tribe.
– Cain married his anthropomorphication if the land of Nod was his metaphorical landscape. Then his wife would represent anyone to which he related in that way, but who would that be? His father, his mother, god?
I can’t help but believe that Genesis is not timewise lineair, mathematically logical or single-axis.
The rejection of Cains’ sacrifice, could that really be in part because of the cyclical nature of his world view? There’s so much value in cyclical awareness.
So my question at this stage, (which may become clear later), is what are these ten things? Ten kinds of people? Ten aspects of a person? Ten stages a person might progress through?
It’s a good question. “Conceptual categories” might be a good answer, there may be better answers. Lon Milo
Duquette said of the introduction of Qabalah that there is no explanation that can be given that does not presuppose you already know about something else. Introduction stuff is really difficult.
Well written! Revisiting the hurts taxonomy of level 2, the light of the 1st degree study material and a nice overview of the types of hurts and links to other taxonomies. Hadn’t thought of life-fluids as fulfilments at all but it’s obvious now. Sheds a nice light on my own tendency to conform, albeit kicking and screaming (on the inside).
Atu XVI. message well-received. This Abraxas entity of all makes me think of that song by Alan Parsons Project, can’t take it with you: And the boatman’s getting restless as he stands upon the shore. well you really are persuading but there’s nothing I can do… Also nice reference to pluto/hades. and again a river. did you notice the ‘vessel’ in the description of abraxas?
As if the feminine is a form – vessel – to traverse the flood, but at the same time the identity role (assumed form) dies when the shit of the eye of shiva hits the fan. Hmmm, think deeper I must.
You are correct. That is a traditional image of the card, was symbolic of a carefree attitude, living in the moment, not thinking about the future or where he is going etc.
Just a quick shout-out to the symbolism of the Lotus. Om mani padme hum. The flower of Consciousness emerging from the putrefactive mud at the bottom of the pond.
of course I listened to the end after seeing your experiments on the windowsill, fascinating and it tied in to a lecture I was in today discussing gut bacteria and life on Earth which billions of years ago started out it seems like your experiment.
If I grok it, doesn’t the Fool have a bit of “I know it’s gonna be messy but I’m going to jump in anyway.” ? I think you’re right Ben, if he knew up front he probably would do differently but he just jumps in without any judgement or preconceptions. Let’s experience what happens because that’s what it’s all about. That and watersharing. Didn’t read it in there, thanks for pointing it out! Now I’ll prolly actually finish the book. 🙂
Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki describes the 29th path as the path of sex, corporeal intelligence. I am still under the illusion its about facing that what is dark, hidden, scary, fearfull.
I just now remembered you saying something like “what happens in the dark..”….
Thanks Andy ideas are flowing amazing stuff i can base my Patchworking around the Pearly family as you mentioned not to think too much which quite challenged me then realisation about keeping things simple.
Short and sweet, thanks for this. Can’t stop picturing Shiva as a mafioso now.
Awesome!
When this was a topic for me, I myself emerged out of a situation where I had taken on the victim role. Being able to see this mechanism and then jotting it down combined with the ToL was (one of the) a big eye opener. Of course around that time a client came to me for bodywork sessions who continously and persistently ‘forced’ me to take a position in this triangle. Very informative.
Now re-reading; Equals having a problem positioning yourself as the victim? Is asking ‘Whats it like’ deliberately taking on one of the two other positions in this triangle, and, is that what we want (operating within in this triangle)?
Having done the IEMT and learning about the Patterns of Chronicity, this drama triangle is again very intriguing to me.
Two thoughts:
– Adam and eve weren’t the first humans. They are representative of early humans and how they grew consciousness (knowledge) and became aware of their vulnerability. Within this frame it’s not so weird that Cain married someone from another tribe.
– Cain married his anthropomorphication if the land of Nod was his metaphorical landscape. Then his wife would represent anyone to which he related in that way, but who would that be? His father, his mother, god?
I can’t help but believe that Genesis is not timewise lineair, mathematically logical or single-axis.
The rejection of Cains’ sacrifice, could that really be in part because of the cyclical nature of his world view? There’s so much value in cyclical awareness.
Throughout these pages, you will see the correlation between the Greek and the Roman gods. This graphic explains why this happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIiWzSCuSf0
Hermetic magick
Change.
Looking good, thank you!
Let’s start the exploring. 🙂 Good times!
So my question at this stage, (which may become clear later), is what are these ten things? Ten kinds of people? Ten aspects of a person? Ten stages a person might progress through?
It’s a good question. “Conceptual categories” might be a good answer, there may be better answers. Lon Milo
Duquette said of the introduction of Qabalah that there is no explanation that can be given that does not presuppose you already know about something else. Introduction stuff is really difficult.
okay. That unexpected youtube movie just propelled Marlies and me to the outer edges of the Internet. Wow.
If you give it a try, do please photograph the results.
“He had balls” — I see what you did there
Well written! Revisiting the hurts taxonomy of level 2, the light of the 1st degree study material and a nice overview of the types of hurts and links to other taxonomies. Hadn’t thought of life-fluids as fulfilments at all but it’s obvious now. Sheds a nice light on my own tendency to conform, albeit kicking and screaming (on the inside).
Looks to me like vairocana. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Temple_Buddha note the hands).
Atu XVI. message well-received. This Abraxas entity of all makes me think of that song by Alan Parsons Project, can’t take it with you: And the boatman’s getting restless as he stands upon the shore. well you really are persuading but there’s nothing I can do… Also nice reference to pluto/hades. and again a river. did you notice the ‘vessel’ in the description of abraxas?
As if the feminine is a form – vessel – to traverse the flood, but at the same time the identity role (assumed form) dies when the shit of the eye of shiva hits the fan. Hmmm, think deeper I must.
I tend to think of the Fool as being right on the edge of a cliff — is that a different symbolism?
Boom! More points to Marco! …. 😉
You are correct. That is a traditional image of the card, was symbolic of a carefree attitude, living in the moment, not thinking about the future or where he is going etc.
Just a quick shout-out to the symbolism of the Lotus. Om mani padme hum. The flower of Consciousness emerging from the putrefactive mud at the bottom of the pond.
btw. You got an old deck of Thoth. of course. Do you have all three magi?
Somewhere, ive got a few different versions, my deck with the three magi is somewhere in the attic.
BTW there are different versions of other cards that Frieda Harris painted, but these cost rather a lot.
The lack of skin tissue makes the skeleton extra flexible? Whats up with the hands? May be a surrendering/offering gesture?
of course I listened to the end after seeing your experiments on the windowsill, fascinating and it tied in to a lecture I was in today discussing gut bacteria and life on Earth which billions of years ago started out it seems like your experiment.
Yoga!
Awareness of the physical body as a projection of the true will is a key to wisdom – Nancy Wasserman
https://hermetic.com/crowley/eight-lectures-on-yoga/index
(full text Eight Lectures on Yoga – Crowly)
Would you consider the character of Mike from “Stranger in a Strange Land” to be a good representation of the archetype of the fool?
Hmmm….I’d have to re-read the book, it was over 20 years ago I read it.
Perhaps more towards the beginning of the book. I think he takes on more qualities of the magician later on after he…well…becomes a magician
https://historiailliusitineris.com/tarot-wheel-of-fortune/
https://historiailliusitineris.com/body-of-knowledge/tarot-the-tower/
The Alan Watts video link isnt working.
I found this link on YouTube – is it the same content?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Z6EmNy4VY
If I grok it, doesn’t the Fool have a bit of “I know it’s gonna be messy but I’m going to jump in anyway.” ? I think you’re right Ben, if he knew up front he probably would do differently but he just jumps in without any judgement or preconceptions. Let’s experience what happens because that’s what it’s all about. That and watersharing. Didn’t read it in there, thanks for pointing it out! Now I’ll prolly actually finish the book. 🙂
Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki describes the 29th path as the path of sex, corporeal intelligence. I am still under the illusion its about facing that what is dark, hidden, scary, fearfull.
I just now remembered you saying something like “what happens in the dark..”….
And for many, sex is dark, hidden, scary and fearful…
Do XX+XVIII+XVI + II+XI make the alchemical symbol of sulfur too, or am I seeing things?
I’m pretty sure you’re seeing things hun.
https://inallthings.org/exile-on-e-street-the-pilgrimage-of-bruce-springsteen/
Andy, is there somewhere I could get a poster with this particular version of the Tree of Life? Thank you
I’ve seen it for sale on eBay, or if you have access to an A2 printer, I can send you the source file.
We recently started with the Wim Hof Breathing Method, what a rush!
Wim Hof breathing tutorial by Wim Hof:
https://youtu.be/nzCaZQqAs9I